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Old 14-11-06, 12:00 PM   #1
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Unscientific One Way Roads

Have written this in various forums, to no avail thus far. One more try here.

Have you noticed that reversing the direction of one way flow on Richmond and Residency roads can solve a lot of problems faced by public and make for a smoother flow? The traffic authorities definitely do not see it this way, or probably do not care.

The benefits the way I see them are:

1. The stupid cross over of traffic on the flyover will get eliminated.
2. The flow on Residency road will be smoother as most major intersections are designed towards flow towards Richmond circle and not in the reverse as it is now.
a) Cross over of traffic on MG Road near Raheja Chambers will be eliminated.
b) Traffic from MG road coming from Ulsoor side can move smoothly on to Residency road and go straight towards Richmond Circle. Traffic from MG Road from Utility bldg side can take a left turn at Mayo hall signal, without having to cut across near Raheja Chambers.
c) Traffic from Airport side can reach Residency road via Trinity Circle. Also, the flow on Commisariat and Magrath roads can be reversed to allow traffic from Lower Agaram and Lifestyle side to flow straight on to Residency road / MG Road.
d) Traffic on Hosur road can be allowed on to Residency road and Museum road, as it is now. It can take a left at St. Joseph's College to go towards Richmond circle or straight on to Museum road.
e) Traffic on Richmond road will go straight towards Airport road with no deviations. Smooth access to airport is very important.
f) Reorganize the flow at Richmond circle to make better use of the intersection.

With little modifications, the flow can be made much better than it is now.
Hope the authorities will give it a consideration.
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Old 14-11-06, 12:08 PM   #2
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I really appreciate your thoughts... Nelaturi...And what about Brigade Road Keep going
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Old 14-11-06, 12:17 PM   #3
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Thanks, Harsh.

Brigade road seems okay, flow-wise, since you need a flow in the opposite direction towards Hosur road. Also, if Magrath and Comisariat roads are reversed as suggested by me, Brigade road will need to flow as it si now.

Any better suggestions are welcome.

I wish someone from the Civic agencies also gets to see these messages???!!! Wishful thinking, indeed...
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Old 15-11-06, 05:01 PM   #4
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Lane markings on roads

Apart from you, Manoj, wonder how many Bengalurians are members here! Would appreciate more interactions with them...

One more thing about Bengaluru roads is the absence of lane markings. Some of the roads where re-laying work is getting done seem to be coming up with lanes, but there is no consistency.

Lanes are a must, in the first place, for anyone to start expecting discipline from road users. Cops can start getting tough with lane breakers, once some education is imparted.

Was pleasantly surprised the other day when I saw a pamplet on good road usage by Bajaj Allianz inserted under my car wiper. This is a good sign. Hats off to BA. Hope other corporates also start doing something like this.
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Old 16-11-06, 10:27 AM   #5
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Old 16-11-06, 04:09 PM   #6
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One more thing about Bengaluru roads is the absence of lane markings. Some of the roads where re-laying work is getting done seem to be coming up with lanes, but there is no consistency.

Lanes are a must, in the first place, for anyone to start expecting discipline from road users. Cops can start getting tough with lane breakers, once some education is imparted.
Do you (Nelaturi) think by marking the lanes on roads can arrange the traffic flow?

In my views...NO

I am from Delhi and here roads are marked with lanes but noone follows lane rules while driving or riding. Everyone jump accross from one lane to another without giving any indicator.
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Old 17-11-06, 12:48 PM   #7
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Do you (Nelaturi) think by marking the lanes on roads can arrange the traffic flow?

In my views...NO

I am from Delhi and here roads are marked with lanes but noone follows lane rules while driving or riding. Everyone jump accross from one lane to another without giving any indicator.
Prem,

Read my message fully... I said "Lanes are a must, in the first place, for anyone to start expecting discipline from road users. Cops can start getting tough with lane breakers, once some education is imparted."

The cops play a big role in this, by instilling discipline through imposing fines. The cops themselves must be trained and empowered. Yes, it will be tough, but tell me if you have an easy way out of this self-created and corruption induced mess.
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Old 17-11-06, 01:08 PM   #8
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Hi Nelaturi...

I m also a Delhi guy as u said:

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"Lanes are a must, in the first place, for anyone to start expecting discipline from road users. Cops can start getting tough with lane breakers, once some education is imparted."

The cops play a big role in this, by instilling discipline through imposing fines. The cops themselves must be trained and empowered. Yes, it will be tough, but tell me if you have an easy way out of this self-created and corruption induced mess.
I agree with u but in Delhi traffic cops don't take lane driving seriously and i never seen yet that they fine those who don't follow this rule (Driving in ur lane) therefore u can easily found zigzag traffic movement on Delhi roads.

No doubt Lane Driving is safe driving and it should be implemented strictly in our country.
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Old 28-11-06, 10:30 AM   #9
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Lanes and good driving.

Hemant,

Having good roads, lanes, flyovers, signals etc., are the first step. Delhi administration is leading India in this, rightfully. As you say, implementation is the next step, to make easy, safe and pleasurable both for drivers and pedestrians.

Having lived abroad for many years and driven on roads in various countries, it is clear to me that the only way to go is by strict implementation of the rules.

Once I was caught by a cop for passing thru an amber light at a pedestrian crossing (where there were no pedestrians). I was fined the equivalent of Rs. 5000/-. Learnt a really bitter lesson that day. It also includes a stay as the govt guest (sarkar ka mehmaan) for one night too, but I got away from that since there was no real threat to pedestrians....thank God... phoo...

See the scene in Indian cities. people do not care about traffic signals. At least 5 vehicles keep going thru the intersection AFTER the signal has changed to red. The resident cop scratches his head and looks the other way.

Lane driving is very strictly adehered to in most countries. If I change the lane without putting the correct indicator, or cut in front of another vehicle without judging the speed of the vehicle in the other lane, it is considered as offensive driving. Also, the fact that most vehicles are travelling at over 60 kmph in each lane could lead to a disaster. Cops take a very serious note of such offenses. Points are deducted and continued transgressions will lead to cancellation of license.

Insurance companies appreciate good driving and offer discounts in premium.

Certificates are available for "Defensive" driving.

The bottom line is strict policing and a system that encourages good road behavior.

Road courtesy - the 'pehle aap' of the Lucknowi Nawabs - is practised by road users in these countries.

Yes, there are exceptions even in these countries and there are careless drivers, rash drivers, ignorant drivers who cause accidents and deaths. The system is geared to deal strictly with such, in the larger interest of road users.

All this makes driving a pleasure. People drive for 10 hours on vacations and do not feel the strain as we do in India, since we have to look out for all kinds of things. The strain of driving in India is enormous.

We, the citizens of India, have a lot to learn. The administration has to wake up from their slumber and chalta hai attitude.
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Old 28-11-06, 11:47 AM   #10
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Nelaturi...I agree with u.

Actually in other countries their traffic authorities and road users consider "Road Safety Issues" very seriously, they know that Human Life is very valuable and they don't want to loose it in road accidents.

See what is the exact meaning of Traffic Lights:

RED means STOP but before zebra crossing

AMBER means Go slow if u r reaching on crossing and get Ready if u r already waiting on crossing.

GREEN means Go


What Indian Drivers think about First 2 Traffic Lights:

RED means Stop if any Traffic cop is standing on crossing but don't care about pedestrian crossing. On the other hand crossings with very less traffic, you can easily jump the red light.

AMBER means Go FAST before it turns into RED.

In our country during late night no one follow traffic light rule.

Nelaturi another problem in our country is "Heavy Traffic" a thread related to this topic is running in this forum. Can u please share ur views on the same.


Find thread here: http://www.easydriveforum.com/showthread.php?t=410
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Old 30-11-06, 10:30 AM   #11
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Manoj,

Sure, will look at the other thread.

How can we, concerned citizens, contribute to improve the situation? This is one question all of us have been pondering about and one of the main reasons for such web groups to have been started.

I tried meeting and talking to traffic authorities and suggest improvements. Very minimal response.

I and a neighbour tried to put up banners against sounding horns unnecessarily in school zones etc. People just don't care. They ignore you or curse you for slowing them down.

Wonder if those of us who are working in rich MNCs can influence them to include advertisement costs for taking up such causes in social interest. Mass media has to be used to spread the message.

Cops attitude is a real concern for me.. Any suggestions??
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Old 30-11-06, 11:41 AM   #12
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Nelaturi, I welcomes your efforts. I think the lack of awareness about road safety and traffic rules in our country is very much responsible for today’s traffic condition.

Personally I feel that before issuing driving license to anybody a short time “Road Safety Course” (Through a recognized university) should be mandatory for everyone because a simple test is not enough and education till 12th standard should also be compulsory.
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Old 01-12-06, 10:02 AM   #13
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Neelaturi Wrote:
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How can we, concerned citizens, contribute to improve the situation? This is one question all of us have been pondering about and one of the main reasons for such web groups to have been started.

I tried meeting and talking to traffic authorities and suggest improvements. Very minimal response.

I and a neighbour tried to put up banners against sounding horns unnecessarily in school zones etc. People just don't care. They ignore you or curse you for slowing them down.

Wonder if those of us who are working in rich MNCs can influence them to include advertisement costs for taking up such causes in social interest. Mass media has to be used to spread the message.

Cops attitude is a real concern for me.. Any suggestions??
Neelaturi firstly I want to appreciate your attempts. To improve current scene on road traffic in our country we should not only rely on our traffic authorities. We (the people) should also take some initiatives.

As you wrote that you got very minimal response from concerned authorities (and it is obvious in our country) but I want to say that to resume your efforts because all of us do something for own but only few of us do something for our country and you are not only trying to spread road manners actually you are doing a noble cause for your country. Personally I think that we can take few little but important steps to improve road manner in our cities like:
  • We should encourage our friends, relatives and colleagues (in office) for safe driving.
  • We should build a community (NGO type) in our cities that can aware the people about road manners and off course Easy Drive Forum is an online community (although it is not NGO).
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